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Exclusive Interview: Trey Ogden on His Debut at Titan FC 35

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[I’ve been training with Trey Ogden for the better part of the past few years. His primary home base is Glory MMA & Fitness, out of Lee’s Summitt Missouri, but he frequently visits Kansas City Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu where I often run into him. Over the past few years, it’s been fun watching him grow and progress from the competition driven fighter that he was, into the more placid shamanistic martial artist that he is today. Despite the transition, he’s never slowed his pace or let off on the gas. His motivations have changed, but his work ethic has never wavered.

Trey has had a great start to his pro career, going 2 – 0 with two very dominant, and quick, submission wins. When I would ask him about upcoming bouts he would always brush off the question and tell me that he wasn’t looking for more fights. That he was more focused on just training and growing as a martial artist. So you can guess my surprise when his name came up on an interview list for the upcoming Titan 35 card. The Titan debut of my own friend almost flew under my radar, so I signed up to interview Trey and ask him what had changed.]

“I’ve been a martial artist way before competition. I’ll be a martial artist way after competition.” – Trey Ogden

How has training been going because last we talked you were focusing on [training] – I mean you’re a martial artist you’ve always been focusing on developing as a martial artist. What really inspired you to get back in the cage for this fight?

The opportunity came up. I’ve kind of given my career to the hands of [my manager] Joe Wooster and whatever he says, I do, and this is what he said.

He would also later added…

I’ve been a martial artist way before competition. I’ll be a martial artist way after competition. This is just the phase I’m in. I’m just in the phase right now. I’m not wishing it away, I’m not wishing it to be one thing or another.

“..this is the first time I’ve had this much attention on it and I think the best thing for me to do is to not let any of that distract me from the fight and just to go on with it as usual.” – Trey Ogden

[Trey spent some time knocking around in the local amateur MMA circuit racking up an impressive 8-1 record. Some people felt that he had waited a bit too long to turn Pro as it became more and more difficult for Trey to find game opponents for his debut and subsequent follow-up bout. Now with a home at Titan, there is a deep inventory of higher level opponents for him to face. Not to mention the increased viewership that the UFC Fight Pass arrangement brings. I wanted to know if he was feeling the added pressure of fighting on a bigger stage.]

[This fight] is a big move up for you, in terms of attention. Now with the Fight Pass deal you have a lot of eyes on you for this fight. How does that feel?

I’m glad you said it that way, with the attention, because so far it’s been… a big move up. But my response has always been, ‘It’s business as usual.’ But you’re right this is the first time I’ve had this much attention on it and I think the best thing for me to do is to not let any of that distract me from the fight and just to go on with it as usual.

“I don’t want to expect anything, I guess is what I’m saying. I don’t have any preconceived idea of what is going to happen.” – Trey Ogden

This September 19th, Trey will face a formidable opponent in Ryan Walker (4 – 1). Walker brings with him a grappling ability that has yielded 3 submission wins out of his last 4 victories. Though many people would presume that Trey is himself a submission artist, he actually was a striker long before he earned his colors in BJJ. I wondered if Trey would view this bout as a Jiu-Jitsu showdown or would he take the path of lesser resistance and surprise his opponent with his kickboxing abilities?

[Ryan Walker has] three of his last four wins have come by way of submission. When you hear that, is that like tasting blood in the water for you? Or is it like, ‘oh I can beat this guy many other ways’?

Not necessarily, I just want to fight him. I don’t really want to get caught up… I think that if you are trying to force a particular outcome, you could get trapped into that path. And fighting is really dynamic and I don’t want to try and know what I am expecting. I don’t want to expect anything, I guess is what I’m saying. I don’t have any preconceived idea of what is going to happen.

I was looking at his footage and his still is very – it’s plodding… he likes to slowly walk people down onto the cage and then he clinches with them. Do you have guys that you train with, that are like that, that like to work you against the cage?

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. We do a lot of work up against the cage. A lot of wrestling, a lot of grappling a lot of clinching specifically. The big thing is, don’t get walked down.

[Ultimately, it’ll be a fun match to keep your eyes on. UFC Fight Pass subscribers get to watch the fight on Sept. 19th. Though Trey’s fights may be the inevitable path of a well rounded martial artist some big things could be around the corner if he can chain together an impressive succession of wins under the Titan FC banner.]

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Exclusive: Josh Emmett: “I think I can make a run at the featherweight title”

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On Saturday, Team Alpha Male’s Josh Emmett takes on his toughest challenge yet as he steps up to face Ricardo Lamas on short notice at UFC Winnipeg. Lamas was originally supposed to take on Jose Aldo, only for Aldo to take on Max Holloway on short notice and leave Lamas without an opponent. Although it took some time to find a replacement, Emmett was the one who eventually stepped up.

So the fight came together, as everyone knows, Jose Aldo went up to fight Holloway, Ricardo Lamas didn’t have an opponent,” Emmett told MMA Latest. “The UFC and Sean Shelby were looking for an opponent for Lamas since that had happened and they went through the top 15. They asked, basically, everyone who wasn’t scheduled to fight or had a fight already if they wanted that fight and everybody turned it down. I was one of the few- actually I was the only fighter who wasn’t ranked that my name was thrown in the hat, and my managers they talked to Shelby. I was going to fight in January and Shelby kind of just threw that out there like ‘oh Lamas needs a fight too’ so my managers told me this.”

“I went to bed that night and then I just thought about it and when I woke up the next morning I called my managers right away and I said ‘hey I want that Lamas fight’. It’s a huge opportunity and these are the opportunities I want and I won’t pass up an opportunity like that. They told Shelby and he basically asked Lamas, he said ‘this is the only person that will take the fight against you, it’s either you fight Josh on December 16th or you have to wait ‘til a later card to fight a higher ranked opponent’ and I figured as a fighter and a family man, with the holidays coming up, and you know we don’t get paid if we don’t fight, so I thought he’d take the fight and he accepted it so here we are.”

Lamas is currently the number three ranked featherweight in the UFC. The veteran of twenty-three fights is the best opponent Emmett has faced so far, but the Sacramento native doesn’t seem fazed as he predicts a fun fight for the fans.

He’s one of the best fighters in the world he’s been at the top of the sport since he’s been in the sport,” Emmett said. “I think stylistically this is a great match-up. He’s well rounded, I’m well rounded, and I think we’re going to put on one hell of a fight for the fans in Canada and around the world and this definitely has fight of the night written all over it, he has the kind of heart, so do I. I think we’re just going to clash in the middle and see who’s the better man that night.”

The currently unranked Emmett could certainly find himself ranked into the top-ten with a win.

“I think a win over Lamas- for sure I’m in the top ten maybe ranked a little higher, maybe even the top five, you never know,” Emmett explains. “It depends on my performance. So if I can go out there and it’s just a close fight but I still get the win, I think I’m still up there but if I go out there and do what I’ve been doing in most of my fights and just dominating the fights and being one-sided or I get a finish. Then I think I can be ranked a little higher, maybe even in the top five.”

Although Emmett only has three weeks to prepare for the fight, preparation isn’t any different.

Preparation is really no different for me,” Emmett said. “Do I wish I had a six or eight-week camp for one of the best fighters in the world? Of course. But I’m taking the cards I’m dealt- I fought six weeks ago and got right back into practice probably 10 days or 2 weeks after the fight, because I help my other teammates get ready for a fight and I jump back into sparring too, because I was helping some other boxers prepare for their fight. So I’m in good shape and I literally just ramped it up as soon as I got the notice. I know it’s 3 weeks but I had the hardest 3 week camp of my life and the weight’s good. I feel really good. I just have to show up and perform the way I typically do fight night.”

Emmett is back at featherweight for only the second time since 2014. The former WCFC lightweight champion started off his career at 145 before trying out 155, ultimately he decided 145 was the best option for him in the UFC.

I feel good I think that’s my weight,” Emmett said. “I should have been fighting there all along. Like I’ve said before when I was starting out my MMA career I was fighting regionally. I was fighting at 145 but it was such a rough cut and I don’t know why but I wanted to try 155 one time and I feel, felt great. So I just stayed there and I got in the UFC at 55 so I just kept that going, but 45 I feel faster, my footwork- just everything, my movement is better, more fluid. I’m average to a bigger featherweight as well.”

“I think the lightweight division, I was just a small lightweight and at that level too I think every little ounce counts, as long as you’re doing everything right. I have a nutritionist, doctor, I have a whole team behind me that monitor a lot of my- just everything, besides my fight camp with like Team Alpha Male, and I just kind of dialed into that. Everything is scientific to the T. I just feel phenomenal and I think I can make a run at the featherweight title and that’s why I made the decision to drop down to featherweight.”

Visualization is also an important part of Emmett’s training camp as he believes the mental game is just as important as the physical one.

“I don’t know how the fights going to happen,” Emmett said. “It’s always unpredictable, one thing I constantly visualize is seeing my hand raised at the end of the fight. I do a lot of visualization, I work with a mind coach and I get put into every position good and bad, finishing the fight multiple ways grinding it out but always coming away victorious and to see my hand raised at the end of the fight.”

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[Exclusive] Demarte Pena talks rematch with Sayed at EFC 66 and coaching on the “The Fighter”

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EFC 66: The Fighter 1 Finale is only two days away now in what is expected to be a historic night for the promotion as they round off their first season of the reality show “The Fighter”. In the finale fighting for a shot at the title and 500,000 rand is Brendan Lesar and Ibrahim Mané. Topping the card though is the rematch between Demarte Pena and Irshaad Sayed fight for the bantamweight strap. In their last fight, Pena walked away with the decision win, however, it was later ruled a no contest after Pena failed a drug test as a result of a tainted supplement.

Demarte Pena comes into this fight determined to take that win and is confident it will be easier than the last. Having worked hard on his overall game, in particular, his boxing, we could see a somewhat different approach to this fight.

“Yeah, the first fight I controlled the fight really well, used my kicks kept the distance and took him down when I wanted to. But for this fight, I’ve improved a lot, especially my boxing, I’ve been boxing a lot, with professional boxers that are both African and World Champions. So I feel that my hands will be a lot better for this fight, I’ll be able to use them a lot better. And I truly believe this fight will much easier for me in terms of stand up and if it goes to the ground obviously I’ll be better than him.”

Following the tainted supplement issue, Sayed has recently been vocal about wanting to see a positive test prior to the fight. Pena did not hesitate in mentioning how he has been tested numerous times leading up to this fight.

“The last time I remember Sayed was just a fighter and he doesn’t work for WADA or SAIDS, so he might just do his job, those people are doing their job. I’ve been tested multiple times so I feel that fighters should just fight and stop worrying about other people’s jobs.”

The Fighter 1 will officially come to an end this weekend, looking back on the show, Pena described the difficulties he experienced at first but quickly grew to like the coaching aspect of the despite it being time-consuming. His overall view of it being very positive.

“Y’know coaching was very cool, at first it was, hard because I train very hard throughout the day and my time was taken up during the show. I didn’t like that as much, but after some time I started to enjoy more. In the beginning, it wasn’t as nice but the exposure was great for me and that it was going to be ultimately something good. After a while, I got to know the guys and they’re really cool guys, I made a few friends on the show so overall it was great”

The opposing team coach was, of course, Irshaad Sayed, who did a lot of talking throughout the season, something that Pena anticipated so it didn’t faze him.

“With him there as a coach I knew he was going to talk a lot, but it is what is, it’s tough sport you just gotta take the shots and give them as well”

A member of Pena’s team, Will Fleury, was tipped to do great things in the competition but was removed early after receiving numerous illegal blows to the head. Demarte agreed with many stating that the fight should have been clearly ruled a disqualification.

“Yeah, the Will Fleury incident was right in front of our corner, I do feel that Shaw should have been disqualified because those shots were illegal but I think EFC only made that decision because Will couldn’t fight anymore. In an ideal world, Shaw should have been disqualified for sure.”

Despite Fleury missing out on a chance at reaching the final, Ibrahim Mané, who was on the same team on the show made it to the final. Pena spoke highly of him as he enters the fight Saturday, believing that if the fight is kept standing it’s Mané’s fight.

“I have trained with Ibrahim for the past two weeks, he’s an extremely talented athlete, very explosive, very strong with very good cardio but he does have a disadvantage on the ground. If he gets taken down him to ground, Brendan will have the advantage.”

Confident he’ll get the win once again on Saturday, Pena is looking for bigger things having accomplished everything he can in the EFC. The UFC being mentioned as what could be on the cards moving forward.

“After I beat Sayed, there’ll be nothing more for me to do in EFC I feel that I have done everything. Yeah, definitely I think the next is to try and fight in the UFC or any other big promotion.”

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Exclusive: Curtis Blaydes on Francis Ngannou: “He’s not the cleanest striker but he is very powerful”

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The last time fans saw Curtis Blaydes in the Octagon was against Oleksiy Oliynyk at UFC 217. Blayes ended up winning the fight via a weird stoppage. In the second round of their fight, Blaydes got up from Oliynik’s guard and threw an illegal soccer kick aimed at his opponents head. Although the kick didn’t land, the referee stopped the fight and had the doctor check out Oliynyk. Oliynyk informed the doctor that he was unable to continue and the referee called a stop to the fight. The fight was ruled a TKO win for Blaydes in what proved to be a lackluster ending.

Even with the fight ending the way it did, it didn’t seem to take anything away from Blaydes’ victory. “No,” Blaydes told MMA Latest. “I was winning the fight. I would of won, anyone who says otherwise is just irritating. I don’t think the weird ending has anything to do with how the fight was going.”

Although Blaydes has moved on from his fight with Oliynek, one man who hasn’t moved on from a fight with Blaydes is new UFC signee and DWTNCS alum, Allen Crowder. Crowder has been calling out Blaydes in almost every interview he’s done so far. The Mebane, North Carolina native first fought Blaydes in April 2015, with Blaydes winning by TKO in the second round. “He’s not worth it,” Blaydes said. “If anyone wants to watch the video of our last fight they can look it up, it wasn’t much of a fight.”

Speaking of former opponents, Blaydes also represents the only fighter in the UFC to have gone toe to toe with Francis Ngannou without having his lights shut off. The Chicago native wound up with a closed eye and the doctors were forced to step in and stop the fight. But unlike Ngannou’s former opponents, Blaydes was able to experience the power first hand without going to sleep. “He has been getting a lot of hype but he is extremely powerful, Blaydes said. “I won’t- I’m not going to be a sore loser and downgrade all the things he does, but he is a powerful striker. He’s not the cleanest striker but he is very powerful.”

Ngannou was able to successfully able to shed the prospect label after he knocked out Overeem and punched (pun intended) his ticket to a title shot. Meanwhile, Blaydes believes he’s shed the prospect label himself after winning four straight in the UFC. “I mean I think so, but I guess it’s not for me to say,” Blaydes said. “It’s up to the audience and the media to say. I wasn’t the one who gave myself the prospect label in the beginning so it’s just up to the people who gave it to take it away.”

After four straight wins, three in 2017, Blaydes goals heading into 2018 remain simple. “To get better every fight, just trying to climb the rankings.”

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