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Exclusive Interview: Trey Ogden on His Debut at Titan FC 35

AJ Camacho

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[I’ve been training with Trey Ogden for the better part of the past few years. His primary home base is Glory MMA & Fitness, out of Lee’s Summitt Missouri, but he frequently visits Kansas City Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu where I often run into him. Over the past few years, it’s been fun watching him grow and progress from the competition driven fighter that he was, into the more placid shamanistic martial artist that he is today. Despite the transition, he’s never slowed his pace or let off on the gas. His motivations have changed, but his work ethic has never wavered.

Trey has had a great start to his pro career, going 2 – 0 with two very dominant, and quick, submission wins. When I would ask him about upcoming bouts he would always brush off the question and tell me that he wasn’t looking for more fights. That he was more focused on just training and growing as a martial artist. So you can guess my surprise when his name came up on an interview list for the upcoming Titan 35 card. The Titan debut of my own friend almost flew under my radar, so I signed up to interview Trey and ask him what had changed.]

“I’ve been a martial artist way before competition. I’ll be a martial artist way after competition.” – Trey Ogden

How has training been going because last we talked you were focusing on [training] – I mean you’re a martial artist you’ve always been focusing on developing as a martial artist. What really inspired you to get back in the cage for this fight?

The opportunity came up. I’ve kind of given my career to the hands of [my manager] Joe Wooster and whatever he says, I do, and this is what he said.

He would also later added…

I’ve been a martial artist way before competition. I’ll be a martial artist way after competition. This is just the phase I’m in. I’m just in the phase right now. I’m not wishing it away, I’m not wishing it to be one thing or another.

“..this is the first time I’ve had this much attention on it and I think the best thing for me to do is to not let any of that distract me from the fight and just to go on with it as usual.” – Trey Ogden

[Trey spent some time knocking around in the local amateur MMA circuit racking up an impressive 8-1 record. Some people felt that he had waited a bit too long to turn Pro as it became more and more difficult for Trey to find game opponents for his debut and subsequent follow-up bout. Now with a home at Titan, there is a deep inventory of higher level opponents for him to face. Not to mention the increased viewership that the UFC Fight Pass arrangement brings. I wanted to know if he was feeling the added pressure of fighting on a bigger stage.]

[This fight] is a big move up for you, in terms of attention. Now with the Fight Pass deal you have a lot of eyes on you for this fight. How does that feel?

I’m glad you said it that way, with the attention, because so far it’s been… a big move up. But my response has always been, ‘It’s business as usual.’ But you’re right this is the first time I’ve had this much attention on it and I think the best thing for me to do is to not let any of that distract me from the fight and just to go on with it as usual.

“I don’t want to expect anything, I guess is what I’m saying. I don’t have any preconceived idea of what is going to happen.” – Trey Ogden

This September 19th, Trey will face a formidable opponent in Ryan Walker (4 – 1). Walker brings with him a grappling ability that has yielded 3 submission wins out of his last 4 victories. Though many people would presume that Trey is himself a submission artist, he actually was a striker long before he earned his colors in BJJ. I wondered if Trey would view this bout as a Jiu-Jitsu showdown or would he take the path of lesser resistance and surprise his opponent with his kickboxing abilities?

[Ryan Walker has] three of his last four wins have come by way of submission. When you hear that, is that like tasting blood in the water for you? Or is it like, ‘oh I can beat this guy many other ways’?

Not necessarily, I just want to fight him. I don’t really want to get caught up… I think that if you are trying to force a particular outcome, you could get trapped into that path. And fighting is really dynamic and I don’t want to try and know what I am expecting. I don’t want to expect anything, I guess is what I’m saying. I don’t have any preconceived idea of what is going to happen.

I was looking at his footage and his still is very – it’s plodding… he likes to slowly walk people down onto the cage and then he clinches with them. Do you have guys that you train with, that are like that, that like to work you against the cage?

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. We do a lot of work up against the cage. A lot of wrestling, a lot of grappling a lot of clinching specifically. The big thing is, don’t get walked down.

[Ultimately, it’ll be a fun match to keep your eyes on. UFC Fight Pass subscribers get to watch the fight on Sept. 19th. Though Trey’s fights may be the inevitable path of a well rounded martial artist some big things could be around the corner if he can chain together an impressive succession of wins under the Titan FC banner.]

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Exclusive: Derek Brunson: “Anderson was definitely a little lubed up”

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Derek Brunson fought Anderson Silva back in February of this year, at UFC 208. Brunson would go on to lose the fight by controversial unanimous decision. However, the controversies didn’t stop at the questionable decision, Brunson also claims Silva was greasing during the fight. The Wilmington, North Carolina native, posted about it on Twitter a few days ago:

Speaking with MMA Latest, Brunson explained why he believes Silva was greasing during the fight. “Anderson was definitely a little lubed up. Every time I grabbed him he was just slipping out of everything, and his takedown defense was really good that night. I was definitely curious to know why he was very slippery, which I definitely think he had some kind of substance on his body. He knows I’m a wrestler obviously, he’s an old, savvy veteran, so he was definitely trying to play all the rules and be very strategic, and make it harder for a wrestler to grab him.”

Brunson is set to face Lyoto Machida come October 28, when asked about whether he was worried about Machida greasing, considering Gegard Mousasi accused him of doing so in their fight, Brunson admitted he wasn’t too worried.

Well I’m not too worried, but like I said, I put it out there because I know they’re friends and I know, obviously, that’s kind of what the guys do when they know they’re fighting a wrestler. They want to lube their body up really good to make it hard to grab hold, Anderson did a great job defending my takedowns. It’s because he was all greased up so he was able to stop a lot of them. When I grab guys in the clinch, it’s very tough for them to get away and I’m pretty good with my Greco takedown. He was pretty much pulling through my clinch when I had a tight grip on him and if you have some kind of substance on your body it’s easy to pull them.”

Neither Silva nor his management have commented on the greasing allegations. Anderson Silva makes his return against Kelvin Gastelum later this year, in China. While Brunson makes his return to the Octagon on October 28th, in Brazil, where he looks to add Lyoto Machida’s name to his impressive list of victories.

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Michael Page Not Focusing on Opponent Ahead of Boxing Debut

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MMA Latest spoke to Bellator’s Michael ‘Venom’ Page, as he makes his boxing debut this Friday at the Hayemaker Ringstar Fight Night.

Page (12-0 MMA) is renowned for his entertaining fight style inside the cage, with most of his knockout and submission victories ending up in highlight reels online, that almost always go viral.

‘MVP’ was supposed to make his boxing debut on the undercard of David Haye vs Tony Bellew in March of this year, but due to ongoing negotiations with Bellator, his debut was delayed. Shortly after Page signed with Haye’s promotion “Hayemaker Ringstar.”

Q: So, Michael, we’re about five days out now from your big boxing debut, and still we have no name of an opponent? Can you break the big news, who will you be fighting next week?

I honestly couldn’t even tell you his name right now! I know I’ve got an opponent, but I haven’t even looked at him because it has changed so many times. I don’t like to pay too much attention to it, because it’s added stress. For me it’s just a case of turning up, and firing punches at whoever is across the ring.

Q: Is this fight 10 or 12 rounds? Given a standard boxing fight is a lot longer than your typical 15-minute MMA bout, has there been an emphasis on cardiovascular work in your training camp?

Depending on the opponent, I think it’s 6-rounds. The preparation has been different, I’m having to stress out my shoulders and core a lot. The kicking distance as well is very different, getting used to having people a bit closer. I’m getting used to the corners of the ring, I’ve done it before but not to this extent so I am familiar of it, but my body wasn’t really used to it.

Q: So, is this kind of like a one fight deal for Haye’s Ringstar promotion? Regardless of this fight’s outcome, will you return to MMA?

Not at all, I’m taking it seriously. Otherwise, I would have just had a super fight against a big name like McGregor did. This is why I can’t just jump into a 12 round fight, I need to adjust my body and get it prepared for boxing.

There’s no future plans yet, I’d like to have an MMA fight again before the end of this year, as I haven’t fought this whole year, but another opportunity for boxing may come up and I might get a chance to jump on that, so it depends.

Q: Were you frustrated that Bellator booked Paul Daley vs. Lorenz Larkin, and if you could send a message to Daley right now what would it be?

I have no interest in him anymore. It feels so pathetic and unnecessary now. I don’t think he deserved that fight with Larkin right after the shocking display he put on in Wembley against Rory MacDonald. But good on him he beat Larkin, however he calls me out immediately after then goes on to say he’s past that fight, it just doesn’t make sense.

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Q: A statement we hear a lot is “MVP is the only guy outside the UFC that I want in the UFC” People criticise the talent in Bellator and say you’re fighting nobodies, what do you say back to them?

The amount of times you hear “you shouldn’t fight this person, you should have fought that person.” Everyone’s got an idea of what the correct steps someone should make are, but at the end of the day it’s their career. People are so fickle and easy to forget. If you are a fan of somebody, just be a fan of them regardless of win or loss.

Q: I’ve got to ask about how things are with Bellator, because from the outside looking in it’s quite unclear. How is it relationship at the moment?

Yeah I get on with most of the guys, it’s like a small family. I’ve still got a couple of fights left with them, they’re growing very well, the only problem is I feel like they’re focusing a bit too much on ex UFC fighters. For me it says you’re classing yourself as second best. Bellator generate some amazing superstars and young talent, they should continue to promote them.

You can watch ‘MVP’ make his boxing debut this Friday night, as the Hayemaker Ringstar Fight Night will air at 21:00PM on Dave.

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Exclusive: Alex Lohore “Didn’t Know” Who Richard Kiely Was Before BAMMA 32 Booking

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We spoke to the recently crowned BAMMA welterweight champion Alex Lohore, as he prepares to defend his title against Richard Kiely at BAMMA 32 in Dublin.

Lohore (13-1) won the vacant BAMMA welterweight title last month at BAMMA 31 in London. Fighting his longtime rival Nathan Jones on the night, Lohore knocked out “Mr Bag & Tag” with a knee in the first round.

Q: Obviously the rivalry between you and Jones had been going on for years, but you finished it in brutal fashion. Did you to speak to him after the fight?

Yeah I did have a chat with him. I was telling him that it was a great fight and we should train together sometime, but he was he wasn’t really keen on it. I guess he was still a bit sore about the defeat.

Q: In the cage after your win, you called out Richard Kiely, now you’re fighting him. Are you happy you got the opponent you asked for?

Everyone keeps saying I called him out, I didn’t call him out, he called me out! I didn’t even address his name, I said ‘this Irish kid has been running his mouth we’re going to go out there and shut him up.’ I didn’t even know who he was. He’s been mentioning my name and talking a lot of rubbish on my social media disturbing me and my fans.

Q: The finish against Jones was picture perfect. From the elbow, to the right hand, to the knee, was it the best of your career?

Yeah I think it is, by far! It was perfect technique. I knew as he was going he back he would try to duck in for the takedown. Because I was throwing the head kick anyway all I needed to do was just switch it to a knee. I couldn’t ask for any better.

Q: Given it’s in Dublin and Richard is Irish, How do you feel about going into enemy territory at BAMMA 32?

That’s great, that’s why I’m doing it! I need to be comfortable in every environment, so going out there will test. I wanted to be on the Dublin card, now I can teach him a little lesson too, I can’t wait.

Q: As you know the Geordie Shore star Aaron Chalmers has brought a lot of attention to BAMMA recently, what are your thoughts on him? 

He’s good man. For someone who doesn’t come from a fighting background and does reality TV stuff, he’s doing good. How can people say he should fight someone more experienced, because he is taking  guys that are on his level and he’s doing good.

He’s helping MMA fighters because he has got a big following so more people are going to be watching MMA and learning about MMA so it’s a good thing having him on board.

BAMMA32 will take place at the 3Arena in Dublin on November 10th. Tickets are now on sale at ticketmaster.ie. The card will air live on both UNILAD’s Facebook page, and Dave.

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