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Stephen “Wonderboy” Thompson talks upcoming fight, title aspirations, training with GSP

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Stephen “Wonderboy” Thompson, one of the newest members of the UFC Welterweight Top Ten may soon springboard to the very top of the 170lb ladder.  But first he’ll need to get past his next opponent, Johny Hendricks, the most accomplished fighter he’s faced in his entire MMA career.

An impressive win over the well-rounded and always dangerous Jake “The Juggernaut” Ellenberger was his latest effort in a five-fight win streak, earning Wonderboy the number nine spot in the Official UFC Welterweight Rankings.

Early in that fight Ellenberger blasted Thompson with a powerful shot, dropping him to the canvas, but Thompson’s will was put to the test and he passed with flying colors. In a display of tremendous heart he stood his ground and stuck to the gameplan, scoring an amazing knockout via spinning hook kick with just 30 seconds left in the 1st round.

That’s right, a SPINNING HOOK KICK, lest anyone was unclear as to why he’s called Wonderboy. He’s a real life superhero and his ninja skills have been on full display his entire MMA career, especially during his UFC tenure. The Ellenberger fight was his first Main Event headliner and it put another highlight reel KO on his resume, earning him a 3rd Performance of the Night bonus and a major victory over a high profile opponent.

MMA Latest had the opportunity to speak with Wonderboy Thompson ahead of his UFC 196 co-main event bout, which takes place in Las Vegas on February 6th.  He’ll be taking on the most recent UFC Welterweight Champion, #3 ranked Johny “Bigg Rigg” Hendricks.

 

Rodney James Edgar: Stephen “Wonderboy” Thompson ladies and gentleman. Thanks for speaking with me today. So let’s get right to it, you have a big fight coming up real soon. How are you feeling?

Stephen Thompson: Oh man I’m feeling good; just winding down my friend, getting ready for UFC 196.

Congratulations on your last fight against Jake Ellenberger, that was an incredible fight with an incredible finish.

Yeah man. That was last July. 1st round KO, you got it!

At 1:15 of the first (and only) round, Ellenberger dropped you with a big punch. You showed a ton of heart and a great chin by fighting through the adversity, how rocked were you?

You know, I was actually feeling good about myself that I could take his best shot. But I didn’t go out. It was like a flash knockdown. I was still coherent, my legs just gave out on me, which is why I kinda [sic] shot in for the legs and recovered fairly well. But in my head I’m thinking, ‘you know what, I’m losing this fight, so I gotta [sic] take it to this guy right now’. After that I was on him like white on rice and I hit him with not one, but two spinning hook kicks before the end of the round and finished him.

Next you’re facing former UFC Welterweight Champion Johny Hendricks – how did that fight come about?

After the Ellenberger fight I knew I was ranked number nine. I wanted to keep moving forward, but around August or September the top seven guys either had fights coming up or they were injured. They had me facing against Neil Magny at UFC 195. I was kind of disappointed because I wanted to keep moving up and at the time he was ranked number fifteen. But I’m a fighter, so I took the fight and then he ended up actually taking a fight on short notice with Kelvin Gastelum so it left me without an opponent yet again. So then around Thanksgiving I was actually up in New York helping Chris Weidman get ready for his fight. I got a call and all my manager said was, “Johny Hendricks, BOOM!” and I’m like, ‘yeah let’s do it.’ That’s why I’m in the game. I’m in here to fight the best. What’s better than to face off against the former champion and number three ranked guy in the world?  So here I am, just ready to step out there into the Octagon my friend.

I feel like Hendricks and Ellenberger are very similar in that both are very compact, muscular welterweights with knockout power and outstanding wrestling. Is this your toughest opponent yet?

Oh definitely, definitely. He’s the best opponent of my career so far, but man, I’m confident. I’m ready to go out there, keep him at the end of my punches, keep moving and keep him at bay with my kicks. Hopefully, we’ll get another finish like Ellenberger. Hendricks has been in there with the world’s best. He’s spent ten rounds in there with Robbie Lawler, the current champ, so he’s no slouch. He’s a monster.

Hendricks had to pull out of his last bout with Tyron Woodley due to health problems he endured while cutting weight. How frustrating is it to see that at the highest professional level?

Yeah man it’s definitely a huge disappointment. We’re professionals and we need to act like professionals. In his last fight he wasn’t really focused on it. It was almost like he didn’t care, which is why he didn’t make weight. To cut as much weight as he does, I mean he’s walking around at 220…and to try and make 170, that’s dangerous. I know he’s hired a different nutritionist so I think we’re going to see the best Johny Hendricks on February 6th. I’m prepared for it, I’m focused I have a great team behind me. We’re ready to throw down baby!

I’m convinced that a win against the former champion will put you a fight or two away from a title shot. Hypothetically you could leapfrog Matt Brown who represents your one and ONLY career loss. You may even end up fighting him in a title eliminator depending on how the division shifts. How important is it for you to avenge that defeat?

When it first happened, yeah. That was something I really wanted to get back. Where I’m at now though, if I face him or not, I really don’t care. I’ll do what I have to do to get the title and that’s my goal. So when I beat Johny Hendricks, it’s like you said, depending on the division and where it’s at, you know, I want to go for that title and hopefully we can get that against Robbie Lawler.

You fight with your hands down a lot, you’ve been able to rely on pure athleticism but that could be very dangerous against the division’s elite. Have you made adjustments?

That’s something that I’ve always done. When I’m out in the cage I feel like my hands are up. But they’re not. When I go back and watch the fight, they’re way down. But it’s something I’ve always done. I started my full contact training at age 12, I had my first fight at 15. I’ve just kept the point fighting style, and it really helps me distribute my weight when I’m facing off against these power punchers, heavy hitters. It’s a style I’ve used to stay away from the big shots from the bigger guys and I’ve just kept it ever since. If you ever watch Muhammad Ali, I’ve picked up a lot of my style from him. It just helps me, it’s my style and it works for me.

I found a quote in which Georges St. Pierre called you the world’s greatest striker. How does that sound?

Man, that’s awesome. I remember when he said that. At the time I was strictly kickboxing, and then I started going up there (to Canada) and helping him out with his camps and he was one of my inspirations to start doing MMA. But yeah, it’s an honor to have one of the all-time greatest Welterweights say I am the best striker ever. It definitely puts a smile on my face.

I know that Chris Weidman has been bringing you in as a sparring partner starting back when he was preparing for Anderson Silva the first time. GSP also utilized your world-class striking to help him prepare many times. Lately some credible MMA media outlets have teased a possible return for the longtime champ. Do you know anything about that?

You know, I have no idea. We tried to get him out here for my camp, but I understand he has a camp to run up there (in Canada) and he’s got a few guys fighting in February so he couldn’t make it out. But no, I haven’t heard anything about him coming back. For me personally, in my opinion, there’s no need for him to come back.

Cain Velazquez vs Fabricio Werdum headlines the Pay Per View that you’re fighting on. Any predictions for that main event?

I believe that Cain is going to come back with a vengeance, but I don’t know…those top athletes, the top guys in the division, it’s hard to pick somebody at that level. But I think Cain Velazquez learned a lot from his last fight, his loss and I think he’s coming for blood.

 

I’m excited that you are finally getting an opportunity to fight against such a high profile opponent and gain the recognition that you deserve, best of luck and I’ll be in touch.

Thank you my friend, always a pleasure talking with you. Take care.

 

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Brad Pickett, “I owe a lot to this sport, it’s helped me out so much”

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As Saturday looms closer, a new championship belt lies in waiting. Not just a new title, the first title bestowed from a young and growing promotion. Rise of Champions hosts its fifth event Saturday, in which new amateur and pro champions will be crowned.

Saturday is a great opportunity for the young promotion. Co-owner and former UFC veteran, Brad Pickett doesn’t look to compete with the bigger promotions like Cage Warriors or ACB, let alone the UFC. To his luck, Rise of Champions 5, doesn’t have to. While the UFC does have an event scheduled for the upcoming weekend, it happens to be the somewhat rare occurrence of a Sunday night show. Though, it does make sense, with the North American market free from the anaconda like stranglehold the NFL (American football) maintains for nearly 5 months of the year. Nonetheless, the Sunday night cards are strewn from the norm. Which is essentially what ROC looks to provide.

The regional circuit in Europe holds a good portion of quality promotions and Pickett wants to add ROC to that list. “I just want it to be a really recognizable name. Like for (people to say), ‘Oh, that’s a good show’. You hear that name and go, ‘that’s a really well worked, a really good show’.” It seems for the retired UK MMA legend, he couldn’t be happier. In describing what it meant to run a promotion, he said, “I just feel great to be a part of it. I owe a lot to this sport, it’s helped me out so much, and I just like to put back what I’ve learned over the years with my coaching but then also later, run a promotion, give guys a good platform to grow and showcase their skills. For me, in a way, I feel it’s my duty to do something like this and stay within the sport”.

 

 

The other co-owner, Mickey Papas and he began the promotion together, while Pickett still competed in 2015. Papas and Pickett have a long-standing relationship stemming from early in the former Bantamweights career. “My relationship with Mickey started off like this; I remember when I was fighting in Cage Rage back in the day, I knew nothing on the floor really. I was just like a stand up fighter. I knew a little bit but I was unversed, and then I remember going to do some Jiu Jitsu and then also bumping into Mickey. Mickey was more Pankration, which I thought back then, the wrestling side of MMA was more important than just Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in the gi… he’s been one of my coaches ever since, even when I (went) out to America, I trained in America for a lot but also I’d come back in and train here. I had two teams, I had ATT and Team Titan.”

Upon further discussion of his promotion, Pickett revealed an aspect of his promotion which separates ROC from the rest of the popular regional promotions. “I like the fact when I have a pro main card of 4-5 fights and the rest of my card is amateur fights. Where shows like Bamma and Cage Warriors are predominantly only pro fights.” He continued, “I want to keep to my emphasis of young talent. And also in my pro fights people like Mike Ekundayo (an undefeated fighter coached by Pickett at Team Titan) who is the main event… I’m still trying to promote younger, unbeaten talent to help build themselves”.

 

 

Through his MMA journey, the retired fighter took many personal experiences while competing and coaching under a litany of promotions. He depicted one odd story in which, “I remember one of my fighters fighting on the show getting quite a bad cut on his eye. I remember seeing it backstage where I had other guys fighting on the show, later on the card, (guys) that I’m cornering. He’s just sitting back there and I said, ‘What’s going on, are you going to get stitched? The doctor going to see you to get you stitched up?’ He goes,

‘No, no, they gave me these steri strips’.

‘What do you mean they gave you steri strips?’,

‘They gave me steri strips to do it myself’. And I’m like,

‘You’re taking a piss’…

I went and complained, and they said, ‘Oh no, there’s one doctor, he’s by the cage side. He can’t come back and do the stitches. There’s a hospital just down the road why don’t you leave and go there?’ and I’m like you’re expecting one of my fighters to leave your show looking like he does with a massive gash on his face? It’s just like loads of things like that, it always happens.”

Having experience in the regional circuit, at the time that he did, Pickett was exposed to a lot. When asked about the preliminary conception of Rise of Champions, he explained it as so, “I’ve been to a of lot good shows in my career and I’ve been to a lot of bad shows. I’ve been to the best shows in the world as well. So for me, I knew that I have a very good insight on how a show should run, in front of the camera and more importantly behind the camera, because you get a lot of promoters who know how it should look for the camera but don’t know how to treat the fighters backstage or how things should run. Me (having) competed at the highest organization for many years, I know what that means.”

Pickett continued, “And it’s not a case of always about having money, it’s about proper organization, doing things well and at the end of the day knowing that, the fighters are the stars of the show. Where at some shows, they’re treating the fighters like cattle. (They treat them) like, go in fight and see you later, who’s next? For me, I am very much against that. Also, I felt the emphasis of my shows is to try and help grow and nurture, young developing talent… when I was doing it, it wasn’t really a career path for anyone, but now it’s a legitimate career path for young and aspiring athletes to be able to go out there and earn life changing money.”

As a self-critical person, Pickett believes ROC’s first four events turned out well, although he sees room for improvement. “I do believe they always can get better. One thing I can’t complain with, is the fights. The fights have always been really good, and at the end of the day that is what matters. There is no point of having this glitz and glamour, and spending thousands and thousands of pounds on lights, cameras, and just having complete dud fights.” Without much of a pause, he continued, “I do all the matchmaking myself. I do believe I know what are good fights and I put on some really good fights on my show. That’s what I am happy with. If the show keeps growing, then I can add a bit more glitz and glamour. A bit more on the production and things.”

One aspect he wishes translated better to the broadcast, is the ROC fighter ceremonies. “I do like a Pride thing, where there’s a ceremony before the start of the show where all the fighters come out in front of the audience, (all the fighters) on the under card. Then midway through the whole event, there’s a pause, a break and then we have another ceremony for the main card fighters.” In this certain structure, he believes the ceremonies not only add to the spectacle of the event but excite audiences for the fights to come. “It gives the (fighters) a bit more time in front of the crowd. And where, you may go (to) see Joe Blocks fight, but then you just see these two other guys come out and think, ‘Man, these two guys look like they’re gonna have a great scrap. I wanna watch that fight as well’… if you can get people interested in other fights on the card, it’s a win. That’s why I’m trying not to just make a good fight, I’m trying to make a good event where people go, ‘this is good, I would love to come to this show next time no matter who’s fighting’.”

 

 

While ROC does not occupy all his time, the hectic nature balancing multiple jobs earned Picketts attention as soon as he retired. He claimed, “Its weird, I’ll be honest with you, it was so much easier when I was a professional fighter. All I had to do is concentrate on myself, get up in the morning, train for a couple (of) hours, relax, (then) train a couple of hours in the evening and that’s it. It was so much easier. Also, I earned great money when I was fighting towards the end of my career. But now, I have to go back to the hustle… it’s not always about being financially rewarding but that obviously is important, I have a kid. I’ve got a house, a mortgage to pay. So that is important but, it also is to try to do what I like doing as well”.

It is evident, even from afar, that retirement hasn’t worn out the rugged mentality training and fighting gave him. Besides co-owning a promotion with his friend and business partner, Mickey Papas, Pickett hosts a weekly podcast (The One Punch Podcast), has a beautiful family (with an adorable son you can catch on his Instagram account), coaches fighters, trains average citizens, and travels for seminars. Yet, he finds time for all of it.

I imagine it would be hard to find another human like Brad Pickett. His youthful exuberance, tough mentality, and pragmatic nature make him an impossible character to clone. Speaking to him and feeling those qualities, only magnified the respect and admiration I had for the man. The MMA community is lucky to have Brad Pickett, and even luckier to keep him inside of it.

Rise of Champions 5, takes place this Saturday, February 16th at the Brentwood Leisure Centre, in Brentwood, England.

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Jonas Magard, “This is all I do. I don’t have anything else”

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In the late hours of this upcoming Saturday night in the Greenwich Mean Time Zone, a new Bantamweight champion will earn his crown. A little over 300 feet from the A12 in Brentwood, England, inside the Brentwood Centre, is where it will all happen. The medium sized venue will host Brad Pickett and his Rise of Champions promotion, for their fifth event and second with the venue.

An important event, ROC 5, represents something greater to a few different people involved with Saturdays show. For the promotions co-owner Pickett, it represents an opportunity to capture American audiences on a UFC-less Saturday while being broadcast exclusively on the world-leader’s streaming service, UFC Fight Pass. Although the former UFC contender has a lot riding on the success of his shows, ROC 5 may mean less to the owner than to both his main event fighters. Currently, the ROC 5 main event is set to determine the promotions first ever champion when Denmark’s Jonas Magard takes on London’s own, Mike Ekundayo.

Both young, talented, and riding unbeaten streaks, this main event represents a major stepping stone in their careers. In the case of Jonas Magard, “It’s just a new opportunity to do something, to put my mark on things. With or without the title I just want to fight. He’s in my way to something bigger”. His words echoed his demeanor. While the Danish Amateur MMA Champion, wanted to behave excited for the opportunity, fighting under the ROC banner, his attitude simply would not allow him. “I can’t wait to see how they put on the show and stuff, I think it’s going to be fun. But again it’s just me and him, it’s not about the show… I have not been training to fight at that event. I’ve been training to fight that guy and if it’s that’s event or if it’s in the backyard, it’s the same for me”.

Not only was the young Danish fighters’ mentality impressive but his record as well. At 8-3, Magard owns 7 stoppages, 6 by Japanese neck tie. The same submission he defeated Michail Chrisopoulus, with a little less than half of the opening round remaining, in his most recent appearance at ACB 75. And the same submission in which he holds the record for most finishes.

His journey to this point could not be described by the meager word, easy. After training for a year and two amateur fights in his home of Jutland, Denmark, Magard decided to make a change. “I went to Copenhagen to try to train there, in one of the bigger gyms and they just opened their arms and welcomed me. So, I thought why not move? I was 19 at the time. I didn’t really know anybody in Copenhagen”. He continued, “the first couple of times I was over there, I would live with some of the guys from the gym. I would have an amateur fight coming up, so I’d stay there for a month… I would still have my address and live back in Jutland, but I would just go over there do my training and my training camps”.

Magard travels quite a bit for his MMA training. In his current situation, Magard splits time between Rumble Sport in Copenhagen, Denmark and All Powers gym in Manchester, England. “I think a lot of fighters, they get too comfortable in their own little circle of fighters and in their own gym, where I like to just go out, get the best training work whether it is in Denmark or wherever. I don’t care about traveling or getting pushed as much as I can”.

He’s made a routine of being uncomfortable, something he does not think can be said of his opponent, “I think he hasn’t been battle tested, the same way as I have. Yeah, he’s a good opponent, he’s a guy I have to beat. He’s undefeated… but you know, I don’t think he’s been battled tested as he’s going to be now, with me (in) this fight, it’s just different”.

“I’ve seen his opponents and his opponents are okay but, they didn’t have a lot of fights either like he don’t. Not even as an amateur. As an amateur, I fought the guy who just fought for the Cage Warriors title, Alexander Jacobsen, he had like 125 boxing matches… I fought the guy who is going to fight for the Cage Warriors flyweight championship, Sam (Creasey)… I had the hard fights as an amateur, I don’t think he had the hard fights, that’s the difference about over here in Scandinavia. We get battle tested,” he continued to elaborate, “in amateur, people don’t get built up, people are getting hard fights. I had two fights the same day, for the Danish MMA amateur championship… I’ve been facing guys who I know come there to win, who’s just not there to be food… this is all I do, I don’t have anything else, I don’t have a day job I’m going to everyday and that’s the difference. I’m a professional, I live off this, I live for this, this is all I do. He has not met anybody like me before, who has the experiences I have.”

Magard believes the experience he earned through his MMA journey is what separates himself from his opponent. Outside of MMA, the Dane fought two shoot-fighting matches and one professional boxing bout.  “He is a good fighter, he is a good strong fighter but I know the guys over here, there stronger side is not the ground. The wrestling in England, people want to punch each other in the face they don’t want to wrestle. I come from a place where people like to wrestle. And during this fight camp, I’ve been training with the (Danish) Greco Roman Olympic silver medalist [Mark Madsen]. I’ve been training with Martin Kammpman the former Danish UFC fighter… I eat I sleep I breathe MMA every day and I don’t want anything else. That’s going to be the difference in this fight one hundred percent”.

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Staff writer, Brian Gerson, sits down with undefeated Boston prospect, Manny Bermudez. Bermudez talks about his recent signing to the UFC, his upcoming opponent at UFC Fight Night: Stephens vs. Emmett, and more. 

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